Legend at Sparks Marina
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Posted by: Steve - 3/8/2007 9:43:08 AM
Project is approved and mass grading as well demo of the old Outlet Mall is proceding. A large (12 acre, 1000 room???) hotel casino addition will start the approval process this month.
Overall project has 1.35 million square feet and encompasses nearly 145 acres and will be a massive entertainment/retail addition to the region.
Posted by: Danny - 3/25/2007 3:19:02 PM
There is also word that a $20 Million baseball park is going in to house a triple A baseball team.
Posted by: AJ - 4/11/2007 12:13:06 AM
The word arrives April 20th. Red Developments ground breaking anouncement is scheduled, where all the future tenants will be discussed. Hopefully that includes a Tripel A ballpark and team.
Posted by: Matthew A - 4/28/2007 12:34:13 PM
Take a look at the latest news on this project http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007704270399 You may want to change your introduction at the top of this page from "if" to "when".
Posted by: John - 6/15/2007 11:29:51 AM
There are some better and more recent renderings at the Scheels website. http://www.scheelssports.com/sparks
Including details of the contents of the worlds largest sporting goods store.
Posted by: Uncle Frank - 9/18/2007 9:15:03 AM
Please be advised that WE are The Hot Hog Hall Of Fame, not that liar, thief and con man Steve Schussler.
We've been doing this since 1976 and he is attempting to steal our concept, good name, business name, URL's, etc.
We made the mistake of telling him about us at a meeting we had with him at the Grand Opening of the Fisherman's Wharf (San Francisco) Rainforest Cafe in 2000.
We have also been talking to someone within his organization who tells us that he may not actually own another one of the concepts he's currently touting.
You can read all about it (we've already served him 2 Cease & Desist demand letters) on our web site: www.thehotdoghalloffame.com
Go to "About Us" and select the hyperlink in the body of the text portion of that page for "Hot Dogs In A Cold World".
Posted by: Justin - 10/24/2007 8:08:29 AM
Just a couple updates for those interested (these were reported in various media outlets a while back). Newly announced tenants include Adidas, Forever 21, Lane Bryant, Cantina Corona, SegaWorld, Harry & David, Hash House a Go-Go, BCBG Max Azria/BCBGirls & Target. Accoring to the Sparks Tribune the Target will be 175k square feet which is roughly 25k square feet bigger than Reno's Target Greatland and *should* make it a SuperTarget according to Wikipedia. Either way, I love me some "Tar-shey". Harry & David and Adidas are welcome additions as well IMO.
Posted by: Justin - 11/6/2007 4:51:32 PM
More Legends news/rumors. According to this site: http://www.rercinc.com/recentprojs/recentprojs.htm we may be getting a Fry's Electronics and Nordstrom Rack!!! I really hope these stores build here as they probably account for 75% of my trips into Sacramento. No more dealing w/ I-80...yippee! Now all I want to see is a Cheesecake Factory, but they only build in areas w/ an average population of 250k and income of $50k+ within a 5 mile radius.
Posted by: Slapdad - 11/7/2007 6:30:08 PM
A Nordstrom's Rack would be great, as would a Cheesecake Factory, but Fry's Electronics has got to be the biggest pit I've ever seen....at least the store in Sacramento is. It's dirty, their cd's are always a mess and the selection is terrible...I would take Best Buy over Fry's. But competition is always good I suppose.
By the way, Nordstrom's already has property picked out and ready to go in South Reno and will break ground as soon as the area hits critical mass.
Posted by: Justin - 11/8/2007 5:14:16 AM
You NEED to check out the new Frys in Roseville. Completely different experience. Their new(er) stores are very nice. FWIW, they're owned by Kroger who also owns Smiths, so judging all Fry's stores by the one in Sac would be like the judging all Smith's stores by the one in Sparks. In my experience Fry's also has better customer service than either Best Buy or Circuit City. Don't even get me started on the Geek Squad and what I've went through w/ them.
Fry's in Roseville for reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryce_edwards/540234018/
Posted by: Slapdad - 11/8/2007 9:12:03 AM
The Fry's in W. Sacramento is the only one I've been to in that area, but I've been to several throughout Texas as well and found that all but one (a brand new store) were very similar to the one I've been to in Sacramento. That being said, I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the management and staff at each store....a new store at Legends will probably be in much better shape than one in West Sac.
Posted by: Anakin-Marc - 11/11/2007 1:58:34 PM
Actually, you're thinking Fry's Food and Drug, which is owned by Kroger. Fry's Electronics was started by the heirs of the person who originally created Fry's Food and Drug, but is otherwise a completely unrelated company.
Posted by: RNHanson - 11/12/2007 12:43:51 PM
I wouldn't jump the gun too much -- the RED website still shows a very limited list of tenants. The real estate website mentioned said "could include tenants such as . . .". It also mentioned the baseball park and we know that didn't end up there.
Posted by: Cmoon - 11/14/2007 8:43:48 PM
From a source close to the project, the current tenant list is as follows:
BCBG Max Azria
Legends Casino Resort & Spa
T-Rex Café: A Prehistoric Adventure
Dave and Busters
Stanford & Sons Comedy Club
Saddle Ranch Chop House
America's Roadhouse - Bikers, Blues and Barbecues
Hot Dog Hall of Fame
Hash House a Go Go
Chili's Grill and Bar
SegaWorld Sports Grille
Jazz-A Louisiana Kitchen
Off Broadway Shoe Warehouse
Harry and David
Scheels All Sports
Posted by: bigdut03 - 12/28/2007 12:18:45 PM
and an IMAX theater.
Posted by: David - 12/29/2007 12:53:46 PM
That is so awesome we are getting an IMAX.
Posted by: Justin - 2/27/2008 3:06:27 PM
More tenants announced today: Saks Off Fifth, Nike, Tommy Hilfiger, Anne Klein, Nine West, Jones New York, Ann Taylor, Banana Republic, the Gap, Best Buy, Blowfish Sushi, the Olive Garden, Hofbräuhaus, Grimaldi’s Coal Brick-Over Pizzeria, AT&T, The Big Bang Dueling Piano Bar, Deegie's Carma, Easy Spirit, Dickinson Theaters + IMAX, Tuscanos Brazilian Grill, Mountain Family RV & a 7500 square foot Indoor Arena which will possibly house a Football League of some sort. This is sounding more and more like a first-class shopping, dining & entertainment destination.
Posted by: Mike Van H - 2/28/2008 9:41:59 AM
I agree Justin, I just posted the same tenants on a breaking news post. The guts of the mall have changed significantly though....the older renderings show several branches breaking off from the main shopping strip, with meandering streams and bridges etc, and the new rendering looks much more standard, with one main shopping strip, no streams etc.
Posted by: Eric - 2/28/2008 1:26:46 PM
I hope the post above is not serious about a Super Wal-Mart. I moved here from Atlanta, and the first things I noticed were:
1. There are way more Wal Mart stores in Reno and Sparks than in any other area I've ever lived in.
2. Every store here is duplicated over and over and over and over and over... It's very rare to see something original or unique.
Obviously, Legends is going to be a great development. I am excited to see things like T-Rex and Dave and Busters, but I think adding a Wal Mart makes the whole thing look "cheap", which is I think part of Reno's image problem to visitors. People leave here thinking it's little more than an overgrown small town.
In place of Wal Mart, I really wish a deal with Fry's could be made. Especially with the recent meltdown of the nation's CompUSA stores.
Posted by: Cmoon - 3/3/2008 9:08:42 AM
Yes I was serious in the November post about the Super Wal-Mart. A Super Wal-Mart has been shown as the tenant for the northeast anchor pad since 2006. But during the February 21st, 2008 Planning Commission meeting, it was announced that Wal-Mart has withdrawn and that Target will move from the southeast anchor pad and will now occupy the northeast anchor site along with Staples, and that Best Buy will take the west end of the southeast anchor pad. Also, I think it is unlikely that Fry’s will come with Best Buy already onboard.
Posted by: John - 3/3/2008 1:00:26 PM
I am a big fan of the Legends project as it stands but I hope that the rumors of a Super Walmart and/or Sam's Club don't happen. We have enough Walmart's in town and while the closest one to Legends is all the way out in Spanish Springs, putting one in Legends will be a nightmare. I guess I should feel the same way about possibly getting a Target Greatland (since I don't think we have a chance at getting a Super Target) but the Target on Prater is small and old and we could use a new store in Sparks.
My biggest concern is the announcement that Mountain Family RV is joining the list of tenants. I'm assuming that this means once corner of the parking lot will end up being an RV sales lot. This might be OK if they put it on the corner of Lincoln and Marina Gardens next to the RV park, but I don't think that piece of land isn't part of the Legends property.
Oh and I noticed that the Yardhouse has been removed from list of tenants. There goes my 100+ beers on tap. :-(
Posted by: Cmoon - 3/3/2008 3:43:41 PM
The development handbook does allow for one motorcoach dealer in the far northwest corner of the site. The loction will be directly south of the existing RV park. A Camping World was originally announced but will be replaced by Mountain Family RV.
Posted by: John - 3/14/2008 11:12:45 AM
When I drove by Legends this morning, I noticed some progress has been made in the "not Scheels" areas of the project. First, it looks like most of the steel is up for the mall building that wraps the north-east corner of the Sheels building. Second, there is now a work trailer at the edge of the site at the north-west corner of Sparks and Lincoln (Target?).
Posted by: Cmoon - 3/18/2008 8:51:38 AM
UPDATE: Target closed on their parcel on 3-14-08 and started excavation for foundations on 3-17-08. They will be constructing a 144,100 square-foot Target Greatland.
Posted by: Delphine - 4/9/2008 9:56:08 PM
Sounds great! Just moved here from California and its cheaper out here. So far so good. I've been to the one in Yakima and this one looks like its going to be far more better and beautiful.
Posted by: Walther - 5/9/2008 12:45:27 AM
There's a new website up on the project:
Posted by: Lisa - 5/27/2008 9:25:56 AM
It's a shame we lost the baseball park. Talk about the perfect spot. I don't plan on going into Reno for games (the area is terrible). It's gonna fail.
Posted by: Chris - 7/2/2008 9:09:42 PM
There is a person who keeps putting out money to put a AA hockey team in the area, the only thing is that he is looking for an areana. I think that might be the new home (search ehcl.com and it tells you about how they extended his franchise for another year)
Posted by: John - 7/13/2008 12:53:10 PM
I've heard that they could build an arena that hopefully would be home to a AA hockey team. Only thing is with a NBA D league team and a AAA baseball team I seriously don't see the Reno - Sparks area being able to support all 3. Which makes me sad as hockey rules. I see the basketball and base maybe lasting 2-3 yrs before they are gone.. Sorry
Posted by: Justin - 7/14/2008 8:04:20 AM
What would one have to do with the other? For the most part, each would attract a different type of fan IMO. Besides, the Legends project is designed to attract tourists who want to eat, shop, be entertained and have lodging all in one spot, so given the tourist element, I could see it working out okay.
Posted by: matlo - 7/14/2008 12:41:08 PM
Excuse me? Of course we can support it. Reno and Sparks is close to 500,000 people! That's plenty to support this kind of stuff
Posted by: ROBERT - 8/7/2008 9:10:02 AM
It is a shame that the AAA baseball will not be in Legends. Downtown SUCKS!! I go downtown once a year (Beer fest). It would be nice to see hockey in this town, but with the life style of the old natives(rednecks) It will be hard to attract. NHL has a hard time in some of their cities and TV. I've been here for 5 years and I see the locals DO NOT LIKE CHANGE. They want to keep it cowboy town. Its 2008 and CHANGE IS GOOD!!
Posted by: Colin - 8/18/2008 9:46:02 PM
Hey Robert, If you don't like it here then go back to California. Us "rednecks" take pride in our "cowboy" heritage.
Posted by: ROBERT - 8/29/2008 11:21:15 AM
I'm not from California. I'm actually from Virginia(who are more redneck than Renoites, but aleast they were able to take on change!! Reno natives need to realize that the 70's are over and with proper growth and change this city will be a heck of lot better!! If it wasn't for Tahoe, Reno wouldn't exist. Legends will be good for Sparks, and maybe once Legends becomes successful Reno will learn something from Sparks and move on and do a better job with the downtown makerover ect....
Posted by: urbanblog - 8/30/2008 1:20:37 PM
Robert I think it's good that baseball is going downtown. Sparks' answer is to have a single developer build a new town in a new location because they rightly recognize that their own downtown revitalization efforts have been slow to take off. Reno's future success depends on successfully fixing the existing town, which is the heart of the Truckee Meadows. Virtuous cycle, more attractions leads to more foot traffic and buzz leads to more business interest leads to more attractions. That's what Reno watchers are banking on. We like downtown.
Posted by: Fredo - 9/3/2008 1:07:12 PM
Who is running the Legends casino? I had heard that Stations was planning to build in the area - is it them?
Posted by: Mike Van H - 9/3/2008 2:10:49 PM
Olympia Gaming is building the casino, not Stations Casino. :) Stations is rumored to be building a casino in the general area of the Convention Center in south Reno on Virginia Street. I believe they postponed their Mt. Rose plans for now.
Posted by: srose - 9/8/2008 3:20:02 PM
I worry about this project taking off with the current economic woes. Hopefully, it will spur some activity. I am partial to downtown Reno (Robert, I think downtown is AWESOME and love the gradual redevelopment rather than new huge developments). I dont' really like that this development is based on driving there. It doesn't look like there will be easy bus/bike/ped access which is unfortunate. I really like walking and biking around downtown Reno, so I doubt I will spend much time at Legends, but hopefully it will be good for tourism.
Posted by: wiley_n_Reno - 9/8/2008 4:45:08 PM
I have been thinking the same thing about Legends. It's all by itself, has no apparent connection to Victorian Sparks or anything else. When they decided to move the ballpark away from there I said to myself "yippie, now it has a chance"! Did the people building the new casino see the last gaming win numbers for Washoe County? I don't want to sound negative but....
Posted by: John Andrews - 9/10/2008 8:08:41 PM
I just heard a rumor about Ikea @ Legends. I'm guessing it was just some smoke, but a guy can dream, can't he? Mike, you hear anything about this?
Posted by: Johnny Lau - 9/14/2008 10:21:39 PM
Well, if IKEA is coming then it will really help the economics here. However, I talked to the management in charge a year or so ago and they told me that one of the requirement for them to have a store is a population of one million in the 50 miles radius and we don't have it. I having been their customers in Orange County since 1992.
As for Fry's Electronics they are many rumors of them coming to the Reno/Sparks area with a smaller store. I hope that Legends will secure the store and have them in Sparks Marina and Fry's Electronics loves to be closer Freeway (just like those in Roseville, Sacramento, San Jose and Fremont). My boss is a computer reseller and we go to Roseville or Sacramento stores to buy parts and equipments all the time. They really have a good selections of high-tech stuffs. Redevelopment, please approach them again and have them at Sparks Marina and make Sparks Marina a truly TOURISTS Destination Haven.
In regards to Olympia Hotel and Casino, they should really build a state of the arts Water Dancing fountain bigger than Bellagio and only then Sparks Marina Legends will be trully a (again) TOURISTS Destination Haven.
Let's hope everything will come together and we all enjoy the Sparks City that we loved.
Posted by: Sarah - 9/18/2008 9:59:55 AM
I feel like I can speak on downtown Reno & Sparks. I work in downtown Reno and live in Sparks, and I am SO HAPPY about Legends-downtown Reno is a mess and is not safe to walk around in or hang out in. Legends gives Reno & Sparks another option for shopping, dining, etc. Now we won't have to go all the way down the Summit to shop. It may not be right next to Victorian but how much easier access do you need--it's right off the Interstate--great for tourists as well. By the way the population of Reno/SParks is not 500,000--it's about 300,000-350,000 & that's pushing it.
Posted by: PupTent911 - 9/18/2008 12:40:45 PM
Downtown Reno has more of a police presence than Sparks has. I live in Arlington Towers and work downtown and grow tired of people saying downtown reno is scary and a mess. I can speak more for downtown than you Sarah because I do more than just walk from my work to my car get in it and drive to Sparks. Legends will be great for the area as a whole yes, Sparks is just a suburb community with no real downtown (yay you have a movie theater and a converted toxic pit, have fun with that)
Posted by: MattO - 9/19/2008 7:41:00 PM
So is 300,000 small? I dont think so, we'll be at 500,000 within the next 10 years or less, sorry if you dont like it. You know, projections show us at 618,000 by 2030.
Posted by: Nora - 9/21/2008 9:58:52 AM
Have read, with interest, the posted comments. I have a big question. What with Legends overall size, are there plans for shuttles to take non-drivers from the RTC stop at Sparks Blvd & Lincoln?
Posted by: master890 - 9/26/2008 4:52:12 PM
Actually the main building on the right is done (scheels) it opens tommorow (yays!) baseball stadium got canceloled and willbe put downtown, the sierra summit link they have here is done too! and there building other projects for legends after scheels, it will be a wonderfull project (especially that spotlight they'll have)
Posted by: RNHanson - 9/28/2008 7:28:08 PM
RTC RIDE service will be modified in late October to go through the Legends development, actually going south off of the Lincoln Way extension where there will be a bus stop. While you will still have to walk quite a bit from site to site, that has more to do with the size of the development and that the design wasn't too concerned about transit.
Posted by: Nora - 10/2/2008 8:01:50 AM
Thanks RNHanson. That info really helps me and quite a few others. You are certainly right when you say the developers weren't terribly concerned about transit solutions. Maybe they should put some "real people" on their development/planning staff!
Posted by: David - 10/6/2008 11:28:31 PM
As a reply to sarah. The population of Reno/sparks and outline areas like north valleys and spanish springs is well over 400,000! Washoe County hit 330,000 in 1999. Census facts. As for the Legends. There are no plans for Ikea at legends. Hopefully some day. Legends looks like it is going to be a cool mall with an actual good layout. I love the summit shops but hate the lay out. The architecture at the legends looks very nice so far. Im excited for Blowfish Sushi and Saks off fifth! Plus many new shops and restaurant's new to Northern Nevada! Yay
Posted by: Don Dilson - 11/11/2008 2:40:37 PM
I still have not heard a solid answer on whether Dave & Buster's is coming to Legends. Do you have any updates about if they are still coming and when?
Posted by: Laura - 12/1/2008 10:57:16 AM
Where can I go to get employed at the Legends?
Posted by: cmoon - 12/3/2008 2:56:02 PM
Unfortunately Dave & Buster's has decided that the Sparks-Reno market is too small, being at 400,000 plus, and will not be coming to Legends.
Posted by: DIEMYDEAR - 12/3/2008 4:30:16 PM
Where the hell is Dave and Busters! A little bird just told me they pulled the plug! Not cool.
Posted by: Michelle - 12/29/2008 5:05:13 PM
I was born and raised in Reno and moved to Sparks when my son was a toddler. I wouldn't move back to Reno if you paid me and I find the rare occasion to even go to Reno if I can help it.
Since Scheels has opened, we ourselves have been over there at least once every week or so. The new Target is amazing and I know I speak for a lot of Sparks residents when I say we can't wait for Legends to open.
I found this blog looking for when the Olive Garden will be open because we were planning something and the people I'm going with want Olive Garden. Again, if I don't have to drive into Reno, take that horribly cluttered exit at S. Virginia...FANTASTIC.
Another thing about Reno and especially downtown Reno is the fact that they want to be Las Vegas. They have a ton of empty and unused buildings in Downtown Reno that have no aesthetic value and the ones with life and history, they tear down. If they were smart, they'd take a look at Old Sac and other tourist areas that focus on its history and work around it, not bulldoze it. I guess for me, the last insult was the Mapes. Reno may have been something when I was a teen here but it's nothing like it could or should be.
The only part of Reno we do enjoy anymore is 1st Street, otherwise, I have no use for Reno anymore.
Sparks was a great choice and I can't wait for Legends to open.
Posted by: matto - 1/1/2009 1:18:52 PM
Hey I heard rumor that Dave and Busters will open at the downtown entertainment district at Reno Aces Stadium, stay tuned:)
Posted by: Justin - 1/1/2009 8:39:36 PM
Michelle, No offense, but without Reno, Sparks is nothing. You guys have no arts and culture scene. Olive Garden? The McDonalds of Linguini...how exciting! Excuse me if I don't jump out of my seat. Your downtown is nothing to speak of, and your roads are as bas as, if not worse, than anything in Reno (e.g. Pryamid Hwy., Sparks Blvd., Vista Blvd., etc). You also have little to offer in terms of employment outside of low-paying casino and retail work. Don't get me wrong, I used to live in Spanish Springs and I quite liked it, but Sparks is not in any way superior to Reno.
Posted by: Cmoon - 1/15/2009 1:11:40 PM
UPDATE: "Jazz, A Louisiana Kitchen" a cajun/creole restaurant opens this weekend. The restaurant is located adjacent to the northwest corner of the Scheels building. Also, the Olive Garden is tentatively scheduled to open in late May.
Posted by: Fabio Mazzagatti - 1/16/2009 12:36:15 AM
I love the Olive Garden
Posted by: Al - 1/20/2009 1:27:57 PM
They have just started with the steel frame for building F which will be 2 stories. It will contain the IMAX theater along with 13 others theaters, restaurants and son=mething similar to Pin UP Bowl, an upscale bowling alley with an upscale bar and restaurant. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by: Cmoon - 1/20/2009 2:21:18 PM
Building F will also contain a 28,000 square foot 'SAKS Off 5th' as one of the junior anchors.
Posted by: Legends Supporter - 1/24/2009 10:16:21 PM
Finally got down to the new Jazz restuarant...it was excellent!!!! Cool place, great service, fun menu, nice staff, and the food was excellent!!! We will definitely be back without a doubt and recommend it to everybody! Thanks for coming to Sparks!
Posted by: Justin - 1/28/2009 11:40:00 AM
Really? I've heard nothing but horrible things about Jazz thus far. Staff members that don't know the meaning of customer service, subpar ambiance, hidden location, average at best food, etc.
Check out the reviews here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/jazz---a-louisiana-kitchen-sparks#hrid:8NqtzMrn9EsVCAKeEacOOg/query:Jazz
Posted by: Legends Supporter - 1/30/2009 2:14:50 PM
Yea, I've heard some not so good things from other people too. I've also heard good things from other people too though. Seems like mixed reviews so far?? I enjoyed it...
Posted by: Chris - 3/4/2009 11:02:21 AM
Jazz's food is good, Critics are idiots and if you base what you do off of them you too are an idiot. Jazz's location only suffers from the construction going on for the resort, and really isn't to hard to find. I've yet to have complaint about customer service either and personally enjoyed the ambiance with the live jazz acts and the great decore.
Posted by: Chris - 3/8/2009 11:34:54 AM
Thanks for the insult. If want to behave like a child why don't you post over on rgj.com? I've now heard from a couple more people that the food was "decent", but the service was quite poor. FWIW, I was not basing my opinions of this place on professional reviews, but friends, one of whom is one of the best cooks I know. I *will* give this place a try, but I can't say my expectations are set too high.
Posted by: Cmoon - 3/9/2009 6:39:47 PM
I have now been to Jazz three times. On my first visit my food was OK, and my friend thought her food was very good. On my second and third times I tried different items and my food was excellent on both occasions with the other party members all saying their food was very good to excellent. On all three occasions the service was good but not great. Also, I work in a large organization and I know about 10-12 people that have gone to Jazz with the majority saying they liked it and a few saying they didn’t. I definitely will be going back.
Posted by: slapdad - 3/9/2009 9:49:44 PM
Chris, you're right, there is no need for insults and name-calling....and that would probably extend to you calling anyone who listens to food critics idiots....don't you think? *shrug*
Posted by: DowntownMakeoverDude - 3/10/2009 10:01:20 AM
I went to Jazz's and had no issues with the food or service. With some relatives in the restaurant business, I can say that not all restruants have their full game on when they first open. It takes a while to find a groove. I almost wish this restaurant went through a soft opening so they could work through their kinks.
Posted by: Cmoon - 3/21/2009 11:48:35 PM
UPDATE: Per the City of Sparks building department, The following retailers have been issued tenant improvement permits:
Olive Garden, Ultra Diamonds, NineWest, Easy Spirit, Samsonite, Strasburg, Banana Republic, BCBG Maxazria, Carter’s, Osh Kosh, BCBG Girls, Gymboree, Sketchers, Tommy Hilfiger, Harry & David, GAP, Forever 21, Adidas, GameStop and AT&T.
In addition the following retailers have applied for permits and are currently waiting approval by the city building department:
Ann Taylor, Bose, Vans, Off Broadway, Lane Bryant, Guess, Bath & Body Works, Jones-New York, Kasper, Nike, Converse, Cadillac Ranch Restaurant, and AT&T.
Posted by: Justin - 3/23/2009 6:16:22 PM
I'm more and more disappointed in the tenant lineup at Legends. This is being built w/ Star Bonds right? It's supposed to attract tourists from California, yet 90% of the stores being built can currently be found in California so I don't see that happening. Where is the Hotel/Casino? Where is the IMAX Theater? Where are T-Rex & Dave & Busters? Aside from Scheels, I honestly don't see anything capable of attracting tourists to this "mall".
Posted by: Wiley_n_Reno - 3/24/2009 8:01:49 AM
I believe an Ice Rink /Arena is possible at Legends. This area really needs a skating facility! Embarrassing that the closest one is in S. lake Tahoe.
Posted by: DON DILSON - 3/31/2009 1:46:27 PM
I agree with Justin, these Tenants that are going in are weak!! Why not put an El Torrito, Ruby's Diner, Nordstrom's Raq, IKEA??? Though I live five minutes away from the Marina, I still haven't been to Scheels, and don't want to. When I heard the news Dave and Buster's wasn't coming to town, I decided my family and I have no desire to ever go to Legends. Sad, very sad!
Posted by: Melissa - 4/1/2009 10:06:34 PM
There are tenants here you can't find elsewhere in the region. You boys obviously aren't shoppers. I am a shopper. I am looking forward to it opening.
Posted by: John S. - 4/2/2009 1:31:04 AM
With regards to the tenants at Legends. Considering the current economy I don't think RED Development can really pick and chose who they want to lease spaces. Based on the current selection of stores, I think most of Legends will be an upscale outlet mall. I know the list above doesn't really name any stores as "Outlet" but with the Saks OFF 5th and the Easy Spirit Outlet (search store locations on Easy Spirit's website) that's what it is turning out to be.
And quickly, to respond to a couple of the "why isn't there a ... at Legends" comments, I don't think that IKEA would be willing to put a store in the Reno area any time soon. Their expansion has been very controlled and given the population of Reno and the fact that there is a store within 150 miles, it is not in their best interest to build a store here. And as for El Torrito, Reno/Sparks has a good selection of quality Mexican food run by local people so I don't understand the desire to get an Americanized/Sanitized Mexican restaurant here.
Posted by: Justin - 4/2/2009 5:59:20 AM
Melissa, please define region. While you're at it, aside from Scheels and a couple restaurants, please list the number of significant/major retailers slated to open at the Legends that aren't already over the hill in California. I'll be waiting. :)
Posted by: DON DILSON - 4/2/2009 9:56:28 AM
JOHN, I am a professional Sales Representative. In Sales , you don't sit around and hope someone comes to you, you go get the business. You sound like a Piker: A piker walks at the bell, he asks how much vacation time he gets....go get these retailers, it's called Marketing 101!! and...good mexican restaurants in Reno/Sparks???? Some of the worst I've ever experienced. Every new person I meet on a daily basis, comments about how there are not any good mexican restaurants, what world are you living in????...AND TO MELISSA....I moved here from So. Cal, I come from a shopping Giant, i'm sorry but you don't know what shopping is, enjoy Scheels, hot dog hall of fame, and Jazz, I'd rather watch paint dry, or watch bowling on espn, or golf.
Posted by: Justin - 4/2/2009 11:50:01 AM
John S., as long as they are using Star Bonds to build this project (money they were issued due to their claims that it would attract new tourist dollars), they should be held to their original vision. I know this is a very challenging time, but what happened to Dave & Busters, T-Rex, Saddle Ranch Chop House, Fry's, etc. We all know what happened to their baseball stadium, not that I'm sad it's in Reno mind you. Still, having personally attended 2 of their press conferences where the developers went on and on about how the uniqueness of this project and how it will be filled with tenants not found anywhere else in the region, I can't help but feel let down/mislead. For the most part this is simply shaping up to be a painfully average Lifestyle Center. Definitely nothing I can see tourists gravitating towards.
Posted by: Melissa - 4/2/2009 12:36:34 PM
Don, I am from Beverly Hills, don't even try to out-shop me babe. When I said region I meant the Reno Tahoe area and did not mean to imply Sacramento as well. Show me where else in this area where there is an all digital IMAX theater? Right, nearest is Carson, not driving 40 minutes to watch a movie in all digital. The T-Rex Cafe and Duelling Piano Bars are things you cannot find in this area. To me it sounds like a fun day - take my kids to the water park for the day, head over to T-Rex for dinner, catch a movie.
Posted by: Legends Supporter - 4/2/2009 5:42:57 PM
I agree with Melissa...I'm happy to have the Legends here in Sparks. It should end up being a pretty cool place. If you don't like it, don't go! I'm sick of people saying I'm from S. California, this and that. If S. California is so freakin' great then GO BACK!
Posted by: Justin - 4/2/2009 8:49:16 PM
Legends Supporter: I think you're missing the point entirely in your quest to bash non-natives. This project utilizes Star Bonds and therefore is supposed to attract tourists to the region. My question is how? Hopefully they've got more up their sleeve because all I see is a tentant list that is comprised nearly 40% of retailers/restaurants already in the area (e.g. Target, Best Buy, Olive Garden, Chilis, Lane Bryant, etc.) with the rest comprised of a large sporting goods store, a couple restaurants, and a few other niche stores thrown in. T-Rex and Davidson Theaters haven't even applied for building permits leading me to question if they've pulled out of the project like Dave & Busters, Saddle Ranch Chop House, Pin-up Bowl and a couple others before them.
Posted by: Cmoon - 4/3/2009 12:18:01 PM
Dave & Busters is out. When they signed on in 2006 they were planning a smaller version of their store. But with new management and the recession, they have withdrawn saying the Reno-Sparks area population is too small at 400K, need 1 million plus.
Saddle Ranch Chop House is out. RED Development has evicted SRCH from the Kansas City Legends and is suing for back rent and other costs. Cadillac Ranch will replace SRCH at the Sparks Legends. Cadillac Ranch currently has a total of five locations: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Nashville, Tempe, and National Harbor, MD. For more info on Cadillac Ranch go to: http://cadillacranchgroup.com
Dickinson Theatres planned 12 traditional screens and IMAX will be delayed until spring/summer of 2010. The theatre was to go on the second floor of building ‘G’ which is contiguous to the Legends Bay Casino building. The theatre location is being moved to the north side of building ‘F’ and will now be at ground level.
Olympia Gaming has completed the design of phase 1 of the Legends Bay Resort Spa but unfortunately with the downturn in gaming and the tight credit markets, Olympia has not been able to obtain financing for the project. Construction is set to begin once financing has been obtained.
RED Development has a signed and executed lease with T-Rex Café but, there is a grey cloud lurking. Landry’s Restaurants Inc. which is the parent company of T-Rex Café and other restaurants including Rainforest Café is struggling in the recession and was recently on a list of companies that might not survive 2009. Only 2 T-Rex Cafes are open: Legends at Village West in Kansas City and Downtown Disney in Orlando. The third and fourth T-Rex’s are scheduled to be at Downtown Disney in Anaheim and the Legends at Sparks Marina. Construction has yet to start on either the Anaheim or Sparks locations. Landry’s agreement with Disney allows for a maximum of only nine T-Rex Cafes to be built within the United States including the two Disney stores.
Posted by: DON DILSON - 4/3/2009 1:22:33 PM
If Justin were in charge of this project, it would rake in never-before-seen revenue. That would be great for the local economy, creating who knows how many jobs. They'll hire many people to fill the positions for the current tennants, all to have to later on eliminate them again because the traffic flow will be poor. (I.E. The Summitt Sierra Mall is dead, which has led to layoffs) Also, if Justin were in charge he would block Melissa from this site, she's one brick short from a full load!! Don't move back to Beverly Hills, move to Wyoming, Alabama, or Idaho, somewhere a little less challenging, with less traffic.
Posted by: MattO - 4/3/2009 8:08:25 PM
I think the Legends will do just fine, to be honest, I don't care about Dave and Busters and IKEA, we have RCWilley, isint that the same thing? D&B's are for Kentuckyans, sorry. I'd much rather see a Cheesecake Factory or Chipotle Mexican, those would do REALLY well here if they were just built. Reno has plenty of people now to support them, and the city is only going to grow, current estimates put Reno/Sparks and South Meadows, Stead, Spanish Springs at 420,000, that's not HUGE but it's certainly pretty big no? Hey, Legends is getting some pretty big names so I applaud it, the casino will get built, just give it time.
Posted by: Cmoon - 4/7/2009 12:20:28 PM
UPDATE: Three more tenants have applied for building permits: Oakley, SAKS Off Fifth Avenue and Fuddruckers Restaurant.
Posted by: DON DILSON - 4/7/2009 1:41:55 PM
MattO, Kentuckyans? By your comments I assumed you were from Kentucky??? Or is it Alaska? Is RC Willey the same as Dave & Buster's and Ikea??? Are you a Reno native MattO, that makes more sense! Ikea and D&B are two of the best establishments in the U.S. and if they were to come to Reno it would fulfill the purpose of Legends: to bring revenue from California...RC Wimpy and Chipotle are not going to get it done, go back to Kentucky!
Posted by: CJ Sparks from SoCal - 4/8/2009 2:33:26 PM
There are some pretty mean people posting on this blog. This is the USA, the land I love, and we are free to live where we want in this great nation. I love that we have options, but what we have in common here whether we live in Reno or Sparks is the desire to have the best community possible, with the best shopping available. I love Reno and its many options for dining and entertainment. However, I have lived in Sparks for nearly 3 years now and want to see it thrive. I agree with others that Cheesecake Factory should be courted for the Legends project, as should Nordstrom Rack. I have been to the Jazz restaurant, and was disappointed. While I enjoyed my food, I don't want to pay good money to sit in tiny cafe chairs, and have lunch served on tiny saucers that allow the server's fingers to touch the food. My pasta dish, though tasty, was overflowing the rim of the plate! If they would put some booths in, or some real cushy upholstered chairs, and serve the food on appropriate serveware, I could be a fan.
Posted by: DowntownMakeoverDude - 4/8/2009 8:02:18 PM
Hi CJ....If you think the people here are mean you should check out RGJs comment area for each of the stories they do. Brutal. In all seriousness, I think there are a lot of heated opinions about Legends....in fact as I look through various other pages on my site, few have generated the level of dialog this project has.
Some people are REALLY pissed about how the whole project went down, and also, quite a few are misinformed, particularly about the Target deal. Bob Cashell was on Nevada Newsmakers yesterday talking about this, and mentioned a few things about this project: 1. Target would have closed their old store regardless, and pulled out of that district. The STAR Bonds simply gave them an incentive to stick around in east Sparks, keep people employed, and build a store 3 times the size of their old one. 2. Scheels would not have come to Sparks without the STAR Bond procurement. Love or hate Scheels, according to the mayor its generating the tax revenue it was expected to. Dont kill the messenger (me) I am just repeating what Cashell said. I do agree with CJ, lets tone it down a bit any any posts attacking another commenter will be deleted. You can attack a project all you want, just dont insult other commenters. It does not contribute to the site nor the discussion.
Posted by: Justin - 4/9/2009 7:25:53 PM
Mike, just a couple of clarifications. The Target in Sparks isn't 3x the size of the old one, not even close. The old one was around 90k square feet. The Target Greatland in Reno is around 150k square feet and is the largest in this region since we don't yet have a SuperTarget. The new Target in Sparks falls somewhere between the old Prater store and the South Reno store in terms of size. As for Target leaving Sparks, they did plan to close the store on Prater, but prior to the Legends deal they were in the process of purchasing land out in Spanish Springs along Pyramid Hwy. My only issue w/ the Legends project is how it was funded. I don't agree with it and think that the City of Sparks is naive if they think this is going to attract tourists from California. I'd bet that 85-90% of the money spent at Legends will come from residents within Nevada. Even if I'm off-base, who HONESTLY believes this shopping center will bring an additional 800k tourists to the area like the developers have claimed?
Posted by: Justin - 4/9/2009 7:33:13 PM
CJ, I would love to see a Cheesecake Factory, but they only build restaurants in areas with a population of 250k within a 5 mile radius and an average household income of 50-70k. I don't think East Sparks quite fits that mold, although I'm not sure what area in Reno/Sparks would meet that criteria. I would kill to have CF here...I think they'd do well. Same goes for McCormick & Schmick's, Frys & IKEA. :)
Posted by: Cmoon - 4/10/2009 12:53:23 PM
Justin is close in his numbers. The Reno Target is 142,779 Sq Ft and the Sparks Target is 143,597 Sq Ft. For comparision the old Reno Target was 105,515 Sq Ft and the old Sparks Target was 104,365 Sq Ft. Not even close to 3-times the size, more like 38 percent bigger.
Posted by: MattO - 4/12/2009 4:20:38 PM
Hey Don the Dick, are you from Kentucky? Probaly are, what a fool. But seriously, Dave & Busters? Californians probaly scoff at that, and by the way, IM a Californian
Posted by: Jan - 4/18/2009 1:14:58 PM
I have recently started walking around the marina. What a beautiful view. However, it's hard to be able to walk with your head up because of all the dog do-do that you have to avoid stepping on. Come on people. Pick up after your animals. There are bags all over the place. Don't ruin it for everyone. PS - I love dogs!
Posted by: Victoria - 4/21/2009 6:48:35 PM
I'm Born and raised in Sparks not reno but Sparks. I have watched this city change many times and most does the city good. I think the Legends will help out the revenue by quiet a bit. People who are against it just want to see our city fail. Scheels brought many jobs and the new coming stores will bring anymore, the location is perfect it is right across from Wild Island. I imagine during the summer time parents can take their kids to the water park then go over to the mall and pick up what they need. With the new Target they can do grocery shopping. Sparks really needed something like this and sinces its right of the freeway anyone can get off and enjoy a nice meal at one of the restraunts! We need things to call our own. Everyone seems to know about Reno but its Sparks turn to shine!!!
Posted by: christene - 4/25/2009 1:55:37 PM
IT's too bad Sparks doesn't incorporate some of it's historic past in trying to lure tourism to the area. The old downtown "Victorian Square" area is dead. Are they just going to abandon it and let these generic malls take over? Trains, the Wild West, Indians and cattle ranches are great themes to lure tourism. A local steak house with local beers would be more attractive than say The Outback.
Posted by: Margie - 5/13/2009 12:37:31 PM
I missed the job fair for Legends. Where can I put in an application for Legends casino now?
Posted by: remano - 5/13/2009 2:01:24 PM
According to an article in the RGJ, the job fair was so crowded that many who showed didn't get to apply, either. Many of the businesses quickly ran out of applications. The article suggests that most of the businesses are accepting applications through their own web sites. The Legends web site has a list of expected tenants including links to some of their web sites. According to the article there were about 700 jobs to be filled now, and another 300 or so becoming available as new stores continue to open throughout the summer. Here's the web site:
Posted by: Samantha - 6/3/2009 9:53:24 AM
I am a native Nevadan born and raised in Reno and I can't tell you how thrilled I am that we are getting SOMETHING to do in Sparks where I now reside. I have seen many changes and I welcome ANYTHING that comes our way. Seriously, if you go to downtown Reno, you see a few tourists here and there and the ever present bums. The Summit Mall is full of snobs, and Meadowood is becoming like the old Park Lane Mall. It definitley is not like it used to be. I know the recession is hitting everyone but we need MORE entertainment and better restaurants! I did go to Jazz and felt like I was in a lunchroom. Paper plates and plastic silverware don't cut it for me. I hope more casinos are built and more people come here to play. If you want a small town atmosphere, then move to Lovelock.
Posted by: MattO - 6/3/2009 5:20:58 PM
Agreed Samantha, you couldn't have put it any better, Reno/Sparks are NOT small anymore and nothing ticks me off more than when people say it is, you're right. If those people want small town, move to Lovelock!
Posted by: Jacob - 6/8/2009 10:52:22 PM
Are there still plans to build an arena at the Legends project? As a hockey fan, I would love to see an ECHL team brought to the area (which has been rumored for years now, but because we have no suitable arena, it's not going anywhere). Plus, I want a place to play hockey myself, since going all the way to S. Lake Tahoe to skate is way too inconvenient.
Posted by: DJ - 6/9/2009 11:41:39 PM
A hockey arena would be great, I'm already stoked to have a Minor League Baseball team and a D league Basketball team.
Posted by: Jim - 6/10/2009 4:14:25 PM
Reno - Sparks -- Who cares! We all live in the same area. In most metro areas the distance between Sparks and Reno is trivial. The fact that we are 2 cities is crazy.
This will be the biggest and nicest mall in the Truckee Meadows. What a shame that the ball park didn't go there. A clean place with tons of FREE parking, lots of restaurants, shopping, stunning views of the sierras, a beach and water slides all within walking distance. And all without homeless people roaming around. Oh well we can hope for a hockey arena. I'm sure Reno will try and take that away too. Now go and enjoy a great place to shop, eat, watch movies (IMAX too) and see concerts. :) By the way the median household income of East Sparks is 70K to 80K. Cheesecake could arrive at some point in the future. After all they are just another giant chain restaurant.
Posted by: Jason - 6/17/2009 1:53:25 AM
Does anyone have any SOLID information on an ice rink going in? I have been, literally, praying for a place to play hockey in Reno/Sparks since Total Sports closed. Plus, minor league hockey would be a great bonus! PLEASE BUILD AN ICE RINK FOR HOCKEY!!!
Posted by: David - 6/20/2009 11:03:43 PM
I also would love to get a hockey team here, I love the new push for pro sports in the region!
Posted by: RSMITH - 8/13/2009 7:48:13 PM
I say bring it on toLegends at Sparks Marina. We need all the revenue we can get. Building a massive entertainment Center with shops, resturants, hotel and casinos will stimulate the economy and bring more job. I also like the idea of a ice skating rink. We need to bring the tourist in.
Posted by: Anakin-Marc - 8/8/2010 10:04:50 PM
Any word on when/if ground will be broken on the IMAX theater and hotel/casino, and any other future tenants?
Posted by: Anakin-Marc - 10/2/2010 10:43:25 AM
Just found a (2 day-old) news article about the theater in the RGJ (http://www.rgj.com/article/20100929/BIZ/100929067/-1/CARSON/Movie-theater-construction-at-Legends-in-Sparks-is-delayed). Apparently, The Dickenson Group, the company which was going to open the theater, has pulled out of the project, and Legends is speaking with a new group to run the venue. Apparently, IMAX is still part of the deal. The only groups which I can think of which operate IMAX theaters are Regal (original proprietors of the Century River, hence the crown on top of their marquee, who also operate the Regal Hacienda Crossings Stadium & IMAX in Dublin, CA) and AMC (which also operates IMAX theaters, such as SF's Metreon). I've been to theaters operated by both groups. All I can say is wow, they're amazing properties. Could also be Century (even through they already have a practical monopoly in the area), but I don't know if they have any IMAX.
Posted by: KB - 10/5/2010 10:48:25 AM
Bad news for the Legends
Posted by: Justin - 10/6/2010 8:39:46 AM
RGJ has a story in today's paper that Saks Off 5th will close their Legends location on 1/1/2011. I can't say I'm surprised. I went in there several times and never really found much of anything I liked and the 1 or 2 times I did, it was just as expensive as a regular priced item of similar quality at Macy's or Dillards. I was really hoping this store would be similar to Nordstrom Rack, a store I still believe would do quite well in Reno (even in spite of the economy).
Posted by: Andy - 10/28/2010 10:40:29 PM
Hockey rink, hockey rink, hockey rink. How a city (metro area) of 450,000 could not support one is beyond me. There are a lot of people including myself who would love to trade the drive to south lake once every week or two for a place to play a few times a week in Reno. Legends is a great commercial attraction, and a hockey arena would be a great accent to that.
Posted by: cmoon - 4/5/2011 1:06:55 PM
According to the Galaxy Theatres web site, Galaxy Legends is coming in the spring of 2012. Also, per the RED Development web site it will be a Galaxy IMAX.
Posted by: UNLV Gurl - 9/25/2011 12:07:42 AM
I have been dying to shop at a Fry's!!! I moved here from Las Vegas a year ago and been having withdrawels! LOL! The Frys in Vegas is amazing! I said I would never go back to Best Buy again.... then I came to Reno. :0( I shopped there on 3 seperate occasions and all 3 were not enjoyable experiences. Frys is the shizznick. TONS of variety, LOVE the dvd sales around the Christmas holiday... anyhow, can't wait to check out the mall at the Marina!
Posted by: Shari - 3/5/2015 9:27:21 AM
How about putting in an IKEA Store in the wonderful Legends shopping area, that would be fantastic, then one wouldn't have to travel to Sacramento to get their products