A Day of Sneak Peeks Part 3: Plans for the Virginian

by Mike Van Houten / Mar 18, 2015

The Virginian is the long-closed hotel casino located on Virginia Street just north of City Hall and First Street, on the east side of Virginia Street. On the same day I was checking out Ross Apartments and the Shelter, Downtownmakeover fan Matt Orchowski went on a tour of the Virginian, snapped some photos, and learned some surprising facts about the building and clues to its future.

Did you know the Virginian has four levels of parking, yet no ramps to access them? The building was outfitted in the '90s, for whatever reason, with a state-of-the-art car lift that accesses the four levels of above-grade parking. Sweet! Reminds me of that scene in Mission Impossible 4, or maybe 5, whatever one where Tom Cruise was dodging falling cars in a massive state-of-the-art parking garage.

Matt also discovered that the entire 16th floor is comprised of suites with full kitchens. Yay! Ay least one floor will be able to cook full meals. Also, Siegel is still finalizing plans for the building, according to Matt, who grilled them  for info. They're "toying" with the idea of converting the remaining hotel floors below floor 16 into that same type of floor plan with full kitchens. The facility manager Matt toured with said it would be pretty easy to do as none of the inner walls are load baring. Yes, please please please do this.

So what do they plan to do with the rooms? According to what Matt was told, they are thinking higher-end residential that would still follow a "flexible" stay type model. But not low end.  The facility manager mentioned a law firm needing a nice place for a week..as an example, for a client from out of town. Some examples that follow this model include Marriott Townplace Suites, Choice Hotels' Mainstay Suites, and on the less hotel-oriented side, Franklin Residences in Philadelphia, and Crestwood Suites.

In any case, I'm super glad this is the direction Siegel is leaning toward with the Virginian downtown.

So what about the casino and food venues? The primary restaurant is/was located on the third floor, and according to Matt, appears as if it was closed down yesterday, even though the restaurant has been empty for over a decade. Glasses, pots, pans and utensils all stacked up as if they are ready for the next shift. The restaurant venue, as you can see in this previous post about their commercial spaces appearing on Loopnet, has a fully equipped turnkey kitchen.

They also plan to remove the large exterior 'Virginian' sign scaling the tower.

Check out Matt's photos below. I eagerly await the reveal of their plans...hopefully soon!

 

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  • March 19, 2015 - 8:35:56 AM

    I hear that sign is pretty obnoxious to neighboring tenants. So crazy bright. They tested it the other day. Maybe it can find a new home.

  • March 19, 2015 - 8:59:59 AM

    I think the Virginian sign is going to be removed. It looks obsolete and would cost big $ to upgrade to LCD type. Someone else said the Siegels have promised a lot, in their downtown plans. Yeah, lets see them finish the 'Sierra Tap House' building renovation first.

  • March 21, 2015 - 12:17:26 PM

    Could you do a follow up on that parking structure inside and that elevator delivering system. I would love to see how that would work. Also what floors are those 4 parking floors located on

  • March 21, 2015 - 2:22:10 PM

    Hey Newman, the parking works like this. In the alley behind Virginia Street, it's that very very narrow one, there sits the back entrance to the Virginian. There, if you were facing the doors inside, to the right are two garage like doors that open from the top and bottom. These are the lifts. When the Virginian was operating as a hotel/casino, only valets had access to these. This was not a self park type of operation. The parking levels are floors 4-7 of the tower. They are accessible from the guest elevators but are locked off. Hope this answers a lot of your questions.

  • March 2, 2016 - 3:42:41 PM

    I was the Metal Framing Foreman on the building when it was built. Worked directly for the owner and Drywall contractor. Personally framed the third floor kitchen and the tower suites. Brings back memories. I know that building from the basement to the top of the elevator equipment room. Sure would be nice to see it open. I remember George K. and I removed two crystal chandeliers from the Mapes and had them installed in the first floor elevator lobby. Wouldn't mind hearing more about the building. I can be reached at birddogdeer@yahoo.com

  • July 4, 2021 - 10:27:03 PM

    I am staying here at the Virginian and I am worried about a possible collapse. I am psychic and the building I feel is moving and now reading about the garage downstairs it makes sense. those walls freeze then thaw and it causes water to weaken the walls and I noticed soot-like stuff coming from the air and then the dryers on each level are taking really long to dry which means moisture in the walls. I think someone better look into this quickly!

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